make a mistake to -- condoleezza -- susan rice for secretary of state. >> ambassador rice is viewed as a political operative and i don't think he'll nominate her. i really don't. that time has come and gone. as i said, i'll give any nominee a fair hearing and i will in this case but i think the president realizes on both sides of the aisle there are concerns about the fact that she is such a political operative and not viewed, chris as a principal. >> chris: let me quickly and i'll ask you, senator. you don't think she'd pass the senate? >> well, i don't know what will happen. obviously, there are many people like me that always give nominees a fair hearing. i don't think she is going to be nominated for a lot of reasons. >> chris: and senator schumer, briefly? >> yes. the solution here, a lot of republicans don't want to vote for susan rice. if she is nominated by the president, and i think he is very capable, they shouldn't filibuster, they don't have to vote for her but don't require 60 votes to get her on. that has traditionally been done with presidential cabinet nominees when